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September 23, 2005

Yes, The third reading has been suspended.

{Posted on behalf of Susana Luarca}

Dear Friends,

The news about the suspension of the third reading is true and that is excellent news. The opposition against the proposal has been growing. Today - also in Prensa Libre-, Liga Pro Patria, an organization that is not related with adoptions, published a declaration in very strong terms, against the proposal, because it attempts against the separation of powers, when it takes away from the judiciary the process of adoption, giving it to the Procuraduría General de la Nación, whose only purpose is to be adviser to the the other State entities. It also criticizes that the PGN would take away the parental rights, without a due process, deciding who can adopt the children. The support of the Liga Pro Patria is a giant step forward, in a country where UNICEF has maligned adoptions son much, that even the people who believe in the goodness of adoption, have reservations about the "the way adoptions are done in Guatemala".

We are organizing a seminar to educate the public officers about the process of adoption and the way adoptees live in the country of destiny. It would be great if you could send me videos of you and your children, stating where do you live, when did you adopt and something about the personality of the child, to me by filling out THIS FORM MAIL. We will make a documentary with them, to show and tell at the seminar. We will not tolerate any further that UNICEF continues keeps maligning adoptions. Help us to tell the truth and to keep adoptions open, so every child grows up in a loving family, regardless of the place where that family lives.

Best regards,
Susana Luarca
Asociacion Defensores de la Adopcion
Guatemala City

Posted by Kelly at September 23, 2005 12:15 PM
Comments

What is the legal implication of a "suspension?" Has the proposed law been tabled for later consideration (if so, when?) or has it been defeated? Thank you.

Posted by: George Panos at September 23, 2005 12:40 PM

Susana,
Thank you so much for your vigilence. I think it is a wonderful idea to create a documentary. I pray that my peers who have already been blessed with their Guatemalan children heed your call and submit videos. I can't think of a better and more creative way to get our message out. God Bless you.
Michelle

Posted by: Michelle H at September 23, 2005 01:37 PM

Susana - thank you so much! my heart is leaping at this... BUT - is it correct to say that this law is gone for good? did the Congress say they were suspending the 3rd reading, or just the newpapers? I'm afraid to get my hopes up only to hit another problem...

but as always, Susana, thank you so much for your work and please let those of us waiting for a referral know waht we can do to help.

un abrazo, Liz

Posted by: Liz at September 23, 2005 02:35 PM

what does this mean? does it mean the law is 'gone' and would have to start with a first reading again - or does it mean it could re-surface without notice at the third reading phase?? I would be so grateful if that could be explained to me - and my heartfelt thanks to all involved in lobbying/education in Guatemala about ICA

Posted by: mary-kate at September 23, 2005 06:19 PM

susana,
thanks again for all your hard work in this ongoing battle. could you please elaborate on the actual impact of the suspension i.e. once the proposed law is reformed will it start with the first reading or bypass that and go the the 3rd reading? Should those of us waiting on a referral be more confident in accepting one or is this just a temporary sigh of relief? again thank you for all your long hours and God bless you!
sheri

Posted by: sheri at September 23, 2005 08:43 PM

thank you so much for the info..like the others what does this mean..? I am so confused..I am about to enter PGN...is this done now or will it re enter soon..(how long if this does go through will in be a LAW)

Posted by: jamie at September 23, 2005 09:11 PM

Will the ADA promotions of adoption and the documentary keep the names of the children and families confidential? We would love to support this photo/story project but are concerned for many reasons about our identities being revealed.

Posted by: Kay at September 24, 2005 05:02 PM

This is what I could find re: the questions posed by the above comments. This comes from another adoption site: Consideration was suspended because "It appears that the groups which supported it originally now believe that it needs to be reformed." At this point the law could be re-introduced in its original form or with changes, or could die due to lack of consideration. Past efforts at adoption reform which have been suspended after a third reading have then died, but there is no guarantee that that is what will happen to this one.

We are in the early stages of adopting--we are still awaiting approval from BCIS before actually applying in Guatemala. This has a great deal of meaning to us. Should we even start the process in Guatemala, or should we go to another country? Right now, we will tentatively proceed. Let's all hope nothing comes of this...

Posted by: Sean Hatt at September 25, 2005 12:29 PM

We are also in the early stages, waiting BCIS approval (similar to Sean H's position in previous post). Although we have not officially started paperwork with Guatamala, our hearts embrace this country's culture; we do not desire to go anywhere else.
I am very thankful for this website, I have learned much and will continue to support its efforts we when are called to do so. We are so grateful for your work,Susana.
-Cynthia

Posted by: Cynthia at September 27, 2005 10:16 AM

Any updates or information regarding the third reading?

Posted by: Karen at September 27, 2005 08:39 PM

We have been advised by our adoption agency legal team that the third reading was postponed, not suspended and is rescheduled for next week.

Posted by: Regina at September 28, 2005 10:25 AM

Regina, do you mind sharing which agency you are with?

Posted by: Becky at September 28, 2005 01:02 PM

I just received an e-mail from my agency that they were going to have a third reading tomorrow. Either to vote on the law or work on revising it for a later date. Anybody else hear anything about tomorrow.

Posted by: K & D at September 28, 2005 02:52 PM

I was assured by two different agencies that this is dead for now. It will most likely be reintroduced at some time but it would have to start all over from the first reading. One of the agencies is confident that the Congress is totally against this. I did pose the question about the meaning of "suspended" and was told that it means dissolved (for now) and not postponed, again Unicef and the "others" would need to start the process entirely over.

This is what I have heard from two different agencies and can not confirm that this is accurate but thought it may help. I don't want to give any false hope but both agencies communicated to me that this came from attorneyes and two members of congress. So my understanding is that no third reading will take place tomorrow or next week. Keep your fingers crossed this is true.

Chrissy

Posted by: chrissy at September 28, 2005 05:53 PM

I'm not sure if anyone knows the answer to my question, but here goes. Does anyone know when the congressional sessions run? I'm not sure if I'm wording my question right, but what I mean is this: If the law were to be re-introduced, would this be at the beginning of 2006, or does the congress meet all year and the law could be re-introduced anytime?
We are starting the process in March, after our family vacation. (This will be our second child from Guatemala)

Posted by: Jennifer at September 28, 2005 08:12 PM

I have just received word that the third reading is next week. Has anyone else heard this?

Posted by: kristi at September 28, 2005 08:57 PM

Does anyone know how long it takes for your POA to be registered, after it is recieved in Guatemala?

Posted by: Lisa at September 29, 2005 12:45 AM

I heard to be "grandfathered", the first step of DNA, in addition to the POA being registered, must be completed. Anyone please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Posted by: Paula at September 29, 2005 11:51 AM

Lisa:
It took less than a week to have our POA translated and registered in Guatemala.
Paula:
We received INS approval therefore will be getting the DNA process started soon. Who provided you with the information about needing DNA done in addition to the POA? Thanks!

Posted by: Regina at September 29, 2005 04:06 PM