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February 03, 2007

Adoption Scams Show on M. W. Show

Monday's episode of the Montel Williams show is on adoption scams. Very timely in light of the RAI audit. This show will feature a couple involved in a Guatemala through the agency Waiting Angels. You can find out more about the epsiode here.

Posted by Kevin at February 3, 2007 09:50 AM
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Does anyone know who the facilitator was on this case in Guatemala?

Posted by: Erik at February 5, 2007 03:40 PM

We had the same type of K/O on our case w/PGN (BM's signature on cedula), but it was rectified and our baby boy is home. Is this the "reason" that they lost their referral? Something sounds amiss with the agency...

Posted by: nicole at February 5, 2007 05:27 PM

Hi there, it is 10pm on Monday evening and I just read your post. I missed the show unfortunately! What can you tell me about the couple who adopted from the agency Waiting Angels...and do you know what city that agency is based out of. We are currently signed with an agency under the same name. It's caused me to go into a slight panic. We have a referral and our paperwork is is now in Guatemala. We've been having trouble getting pictures and updated medical (waiting 12 weeks now) as the last we saw was at Thanksgiving. Otherwise, communication has been flowing well. Thanks, Karla

Posted by: Karla at February 5, 2007 10:48 PM

I too thought there was something more to this case. I didn't understand as to why they lost the referral due to a Birthmom's signature on the cedula. Wouldn't it stand to reason, and I too agree with Nicole, that after a KO from PGN that would be rectified. It is sad that the agency kept the money and not have given them another referral with the money they had already paid. We lost a referral and when we were later given a new referral the money we had already paid was simply applied to the new referral. This was stated in our agency's policy and contract with us. What was not clarified on the show yesterday, was why did she think the child was stolen? If her case was in PGN, then DNA was already done? What happened to this child? Marie

Posted by: marie at February 6, 2007 05:33 AM

Hi all are agency has the same name to as waiting angels .Does any know what city threr i to have had to same trouble no medical updated very few photos and they are very hard to get a hole of
little boo

Posted by: mylittleboo at February 6, 2007 09:55 AM

Ok, I did a little research. Waiting Angels is out of Macomb, Michigan. That is our agency and apparently on 10/26/06 they did have a Federal Case filed against them. I personally know a family that has adopted thru them and everything was fine. The only complaint is that they are slow with updates. It can drive a waiting parent such as myself crazy...but I can live with that as long as everything is legit. They have never asked for more money or acted in a suspicious manner with me. If anyone has more information, please post! Or private email me at jkcpatzner@msn.com Thanks, Karla

Posted by: Karla at February 6, 2007 11:34 AM

I read posts on another adoption baord with the lady who was on the show -- she said in a post there that a lot was cut from her story for the Montel airing, but she was glad to at least have the opportunity to warn others that scam artists are out there. If I'm remembering correctly from what was posted there, the missing sig was left "missing" from the time of KO for 8 more months before they lost the referral. So in this case at least it wasn't a simple fix like similar cases seem to have been.

Lisa

Lisa

Posted by: Lisa Beal at February 6, 2007 02:11 PM

Hi Karla, We are also a Waiting Angel clients and I know how you all feel knowing the agency we have signed on with is being sued and in the middle of all of this mess. Just have faith that are babies will be coming home soo!

Posted by: unknown at February 6, 2007 09:51 PM

We are working with the same agency, Waiting Angels, and our adoption has been affected by the airing of the show and subsequent action reportedly taken by the Michigan State Police. Has anyone received additional information regarding this? From what we've read it appears that one family, with unfortunate administrative circumstances, has now caused the rest of the family's adoptions to be put in jeopardy. Our hope, is that this is not a scam, and quite honestly there hasn't been enough information made available to determine either way. Once we were matched Waiting Angels was initially very good with photos and medical, but as of recent updates have been non-existent. We don't know if this is related to the legal action, if this is just standard practice, or if we are being scammed. If you have any additional information, please post it. Thank you

Posted by: Jason & Jenna at April 21, 2007 02:09 PM

Our experience with Waiting Angels in 2006 was a very positive experience. Both Simone and Joe are very professional and informative about Guatemalan adoption. They were always honest, caring and compassionate people. I feel saddened by all the negative feedback they are receiving. It is unfortuante the adoption process is taking longer than usual, however this is part of the adoption process. This is the second time we have adopted. We worked with Waiting Angels in 2006 and another agency the first time. Both experiences were very different, but both agnencies were excellent and informative. Both Simon & Joe want your babies home as soon as possible. Our first adoption with a different agency, we lost two of our referrals at the end stages, we were very sad but knew this was out of the agencies hands, the agency actually cried with me. Our second adoption process with Waiting Angels was such a beautiful memory, I would recommend Simone & Joe to any of my friends or family. I am truly concerned that these negative comments will leave a bad taste about adoption. I HAVE A LOT FAITH IN SIMONE & JOE & WAITING ANGELS. A VERY SATISFIED FAMILY.

Posted by: kkb at April 28, 2007 05:19 PM

Our experience with Waiting Angels in 2006 was a very positive experience. Both Simone and Joe are very professional and informative about Guatemalan adoption. They were always honest, caring and compassionate people. I feel saddened by all the negative feedback they are receiving. It is unfortuante the adoption process is taking longer than usual, however this is part of the adoption process. This is the second time we have adopted. We worked with Waiting Angels in 2006 and another agency the first time. Both experiences were very different, but both agnencies were excellent and informative. Both Simon & Joe want your babies home as soon as possible. Our first adoption with a different agency, we lost two of our referrals at the end stages, we were very sad but knew this was out of the agencies hands, the agency actually cried with me. Our second adoption process with Waiting Angels was such a beautiful memory, I would recommend Simone & Joe to any of my friends or family. I am truly concerned that these negative comments will leave a bad taste about adoption. I HAVE A LOT FAITH IN SIMONE & JOE & WAITING ANGELS. A VERY SATISFIED FAMILY.

Posted by: kkb at April 28, 2007 05:21 PM

I have just recently learned about all of this nonsense that is going on with Waiting Angels. My husband and I started our adoption process in late December 2006. Our baby girl came home to us in July 2007. We are very happy. Our baby is very healthy and content. We went into this adoption process uncertain where it would lead us. When my husband traveled to Guatemala he heard alot of stories of other couples who were unsatisfied with their adoption process from other agencies. Simone and Joe made the process very easy for us to adopt. Simone helped with the enormous paper work load. We even e-mailed her at 11:00 p.m. and we received e-mails back that same night. With so many agencies involved in the adoption process, it is very easy for some paperwork to be overlooked. Is is right? No, but things do happen - Simone made sure our paperwork was correct and we fortunately were not kicked out of PGN. Simone has brought a lot of babies home to many waiting families. It really is too bad that these adoptions did not run as smooth as one would hope. Has anyone looked at how many adoptions were finalized? Good luck to those seeking adoption and God Bless! Lisa

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