Link: http://cna.gob.gt/
CNA asked courts to protect a few thousand children
The National Council for Adoptions (CNA) yesterday asked a court on Children and Adolescents, protective measures for 200 children who were not presented in the verification process of adoption records, held at the Attorney General's Office (PGN). In 832 days were similar requirements.
Elizabeth de Larios, president of CNA, said the institution's concern is the safety of children, so they went to several courts.
In total there are 1032 children who were not submitted by notaries to authorities in 2008 when it required the presence of children and the biological mother to check the familiarity and the desire of women to give up to their adoption child.
CNA assesses the other 122 cases still required before the placement of minors. Among other things to check if there is duplication of records in these files.
The judges received the addresses provided by notaries to locate children who might be at risk.
The Attorney General's Office, Florencia De Leon reported that the records of his unit reported that 43 children were identified that were not submitted to verification, of which 27 cases were opened in court records.
Said that these children are placed in private homes or with caregivers.
Presented are in the process of verifying data to establish why there is so much difference with the cases of CNA.
Yesterday, in the part of Attorney General received about 30 cases of adoption that must be evaluated for approval are all claims prior to 2008.
Nidia Aguilar, an advocate for children, this year is expected to accelerate adoption, to be realized in greater numbers.
Wednesday, January 28, 2009
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SPANISH VERSION:
CNA solicitó a juzgados proteger a unos mil niños
El Consejo Nacional de Adopciones (CNA) solicitó ayer a juzgados de la Niñez y Adolescencia medidas de protección para 200 niños que no fueron presentados en el proceso de verificación de expedientes de adopción, efectuado en la Procuraduría General de la Nación (PGN). En días anteriores se hicieron 832 requerimientos similares.
Elizabeth de Larios, presidenta del CNA, comentó que la preocupación de la institución es la seguridad de los niños, por lo que acudieron a varios juzgados.
En total son mil 32 niños los que no fueron presentados por los notarios a las autoridades en el 2008, cuando se requería la presencia del menor y de la madre biológica, para comprobar la familiaridad y el deseo de la mujer de dar en adopción a su hijo.
El CNA aún evalúa otros 122 casos antes requerir la ubicación de los menores. Entre otras cosas deben verificar si existe duplicidad de registros en esos expedientes.
Los jueces recibieron las direcciones aportadas por los notarios para ubicar a los niños, quienes podrían estar en riesgo.
La subprocuradora general de la Nación, Florencia de De León, informó que los registros de su unidad refieren que se identificó a 43 niños que no fueron presentados a verificación, de los cuales en 27 casos se abrió expediente judicial.
Aseguró que esos menores están ubicados en hogares particulares o con cuidadoras.
Expuso que están en proceso de depuración de datos para establecer por qué existe tanta diferencia con los casos del CNA.
Ayer, en la sección de Procuraduría se recibieron unos 30 expedientes de adopción que deben ser evaluados para su aprobación; todos corresponden a solicitudes anteriores al 2008.
Nidia Aguilar, defensora de la Niñez, espera que este año se agilicen las adopciones, para que se concreten en mayor número.
Miercoles, Enero 28, 2009
OK, maybe I'm having an exceptionally bad day, but I'm not understanding this post at all. Is the "verification process" the same as birth mother interview?
I search the boards looking for some kind of information about cases without a second BMI, but this post has really got me baffled!
I'm with you - I've had the flu for 10 days and I know I've been a little off but I'm confused by this as well. What is the meaning of the statement "Nidia Aguilar, an advocate for children, this year is expected to accelerate adoption, to be realized in greater numbers.". I'm guessing that the CNA is trying to identify and resolve any outstanding cases???? Should I still hold out hope (very little left at this point) that future adoptions may happen??
Chrissy
Posted by: Chrissy at January 29, 2009 08:31 AMTo answer your question:
We surmise this to mean "in process" cases that are verified. There is no mention of new adoptions or new referrals nor Guate opening in this statement from the CNA.
Guat Team
I've reworked the translation a bit to maybe help.
What i'll say is that this seems to basically be them saying that there are kids out there in limbo from numerous viewpoints - adoption process validity, health and safety, etc - and they are moving to locate the children and get to the bottom of their status. CNA has one number, PGN has another. Some could be deuplications.Basically they want to reconcile all the files and have the courts working to determine where these kids stand.
My rework:
The National Council for Adoptions (CNA) yesterday asked a court on Children and Adolescents for protective measures for 200 children who were not presented in the verification process of adoption records, held at the Attorney General's Office (PGN). In previous days 832 similar requests were made.
Elizabeth de Larios, president of CNA, said the institution's concern is the safety of children. As such these requests went to several different branches of the court.
In total there are 1032 children who were not submitted by notaries to authorities in 2008, when it required the presence of children and the biological mother to check the familiarity and the desire of women to give in to their adoption son.
CNA assesses another 122 cases still required before the placement of minors. Among other things to check if there is duplication of records in these files. (this is essentially saying that were are some cases the are not sure of. Could be ones that were never registered CAN, had not legally been started before the new law, etc)
The judges received the addresses provided by notaries to locate children who might be at risk.
The Attorney General's Office, Florencia De Leon reported that the records of her unit reported that 43 children were identified that were not submitted to verification, of which 27 cases were opened in court records.
He said that these children are placed in private homes or with caregivers.
They are in the process of examining the data to establish why there is so much difference with the information from CNA.
Yesterday, in the part of Attorney General received about 30 cases of adoption that must be evaluated for approval. They are all claims started prior to 2008.
Nidia Aguilar, an advocate for children, this year is expected to accelerate adoption, to be realized in greater numbers.
Kevin
Guatadopt.com
Meanwhile, kids languish, are being left in baskets or on the streets, but the CNA has a beautiful headquarters in which to make sure kids don't get adopted...
http://www.cna.gob.gt/Consejo.html
Posted by: Lee at January 30, 2009 03:47 PMWe are meeting with CNA next week to discuss the likely transition of our case to abandonment. Has anyone been successful at finding out from CNA if their prospective adoptive child is listed amongst the 200 or 832 kids? Also can anyone comment on Alfonso Close Sandoval as an attorney for abandonment cases? Thank you! Celeste
Posted by: Celeste at February 2, 2009 08:16 PMBefore your case is subbmitted to the CNA, wait a little longer. The First Court of the Childhood and Adolescence ruled that the birth mother interviews are illegal and that the PGN must issue its opinion regardless of the lack of birth mother interview. It also ordered that the child should be given back to the foster mother. The PGN filed an appeal and the Court of Appeals confirmed the lower court's ruling. The PGN is reluctant to comply with the Court's ruling which only shows how bad the legal system is in Guatemala, but eventually, justice will prevail.
Susana Luarca, ADA.
bottom line... does anyone think they will open up guatemala again for adoption... these children need a home... and for the parents that are waiting I pray for you
Posted by: janet at February 14, 2009 12:51 AMPlease can you tell me how to find out if a little girl we were trying to adopt is on the list? There was a POA filed and supposedly we were registered with the CNA but we weren't able to confirm. Thank you.
Posted by: therese at February 16, 2009 08:53 PMI posted a couple of days ago but it isn't showing up. I'll try to reproduce what I originally posted.
THis is the Celeste's question about Alfonso Close Sandoval. I cannot answer your specific question about his abilities with abandonment. He was my attorney and things seemed to go very smoothly. I have heard from two sources - one source was my case worker and the other source was a couple I met in Guatemala when I picked my daughter up - that he is one of the very best adoption attorneys. My case worker said he has a reputation for being honest. He tapes an interview with birth mothers to have proof that she knew what she was doing and was not coerced. I was also told by one of them that he had a good working relationship with PGN.
He is well enough known that if you keep asking around, I think you should be able to find someone who can give you information on his success with abandonment cases.
Kindest REgards, CHeryl
Posted by: cheryl at February 19, 2009 01:46 PMMy wife and I adopted a six year old Guatemalan girl in 2004. She is the delight of our lives. There are over 35 kids from the same orphanage in lower Michigan. I understand the fraud that occured included only infants. Why are the older children being punished because of a couple of scum-bag laywers dealing in infant adoptions. All of the children adopted from this orphanage were older (6 to 15 years old). All of their paperwork was very legal! I understand the Attorney General was right in the middle of it. These children deserve loving homes. Why punish all to teach a few a lesson?
Posted by: Jim Morin at February 19, 2009 02:14 PMJim, I am not sure where you got the idea that only infant adoptions involved fraud. My non-infant daughter has a Certificate of Abandonment (as I presume yours does) and I now know that her CofA was - well, what is the right word - I'll say "unethically" obtained. Sadly the older (6-15 y.o.) children in hogares were not the beneficiaries of the notarial-adoption-system-run-amok, and these children continue to suffer now. But please do not assume (or worse still take your hogar director's word!) that all adoptions of older children were "very legal", or even "mostly legal" - there is an was fraud and abuse in all sectors of the system (note I am not saying "in all adoptions"). Also, the attorneys had years to fix the many and well-known problems, and instead of improving the situation escalated until the baby has indeed been thrown out with the bathwater. The tragedy did not begin on 1/1/08. Lisa
Posted by: Lisa at February 19, 2009 04:08 PM