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October 10, 2009

Susana's New Blog

Susana has launched a blog of her own. On it currently is a detailed description of her involvement in the Karen Abigail case. So for all of you asking to her to continue posting, she's doing so in a forum of her choosing which is, in my opinion, totally cool and within one's rights You can find her blog here:

http://susanaluarca-english.blogspot.com/

Posted by Kevin at October 10, 2009 11:24 PM
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Interesting that she has blocked comments on her blog. Guess she has heard enough from AP's, and does not welcome any more questions on this matter.

Elizabeth

Posted by: elizabeth at October 13, 2009 06:50 PM

And maybe she just doesn't have time for comments. I think it takes the guatadopt folks tons of time to get the comments on line.

Posted by: vj at October 14, 2009 12:04 PM

Elizabeth,

Or . . . maybe she is sick of all of the accusations and disrespect?

Anonymous

Posted by: anonymous at October 14, 2009 01:30 PM

I wouldn't do the DNA test if I were the MO couple either. It would be an over my dead body situation that I would allow my child to go back to Guatemala. No WAY is that in the best interest of that child, if she is in fact the stolen girl. And Susana's story is so hard to understand - she really needs to let a native English speaker spell out the facts because it doesn't make any sense to me.

Posted by: APs are not the bad guy here at October 14, 2009 05:00 PM

I don't think comments are blocked on her blog.


Karen B.

Posted by: Karen B. at October 15, 2009 09:50 AM

It looked to me like you have to sign up in order to provide comments.

Best, Cheryl

Posted by: cheryl at October 15, 2009 12:30 PM

karen...i tried to leave a comment. it doesn't let you, and there are 0 comments on each post.

Posted by: mommy at October 15, 2009 01:05 PM

maybe I was wrong about the blog comments? I'll look again.
And I said it before, and will say again, that I have seen no disrespect or accusations for SL
on here.... all seems in line with the nature of this interesting case.

Elizabeth Emanuel

Posted by: elizabeth at October 15, 2009 03:31 PM

And if I were the adoptive parent, it would be over my dead body that a DNA test would NOT be conducted. I would owe it to my child to turn over every stone (including my headstone ;) to determine her identity. The child has a fundamental human right to know and the parents have no right to prevent that knowledge.

If, like Susana asserts, the child is not Anyeli, then that is critical information for the child to have as she grows up. If she IS Anyeli, then that is unarguably information that is vitally important. One day the child WILL learn of the corruption in the system, that it was directly attached to her adoption, and she will learn whether or not she is Anyeli. The question is whether or not the parents will facilitate that knowledge and support the child, or whether they will thwart it and leave the child to cope with this potentially devastating information as well as their complicity.

Further, as adoptive parents, if we accept and value our children for who they are, then by definition we must value their Guatemalan mothers (and fathers) as well. Denying Loyda the mere knowledge that her child is alive and well (or that her whereabouts are unknown) would also be the responsibility of the adoptive parents. The fear that the child might be repatriated to Guatemala is, to the best of my knowledge, if understandable, unprecedented and unsupported by any US law.

I'd ask the non-adopted people here to really try to put themselves in the shoes of an adoptee and ask if the knowledge gained by this DNA test would be relevant to their ability to form a coherent and complete sense of identity and their place in their families. At the very least, the identity an adoptee would be able to form without the information will be different than the identity she would form with the information. Think of the sheer amount of power adoptive parents wield.

Posted by: Elizabeth S. at October 16, 2009 09:56 AM

Even if there never is a DNA test for Karen Abigail (which is probably the likely outcome), there does seem to be a way to determine if there are two girls (Anyeli and Karen Abigail) or just one.

After reviewing this posts, I pulled out the files relating to our own adoption, which was also through Primavera. The file has the picture of our child and his mother, taken at the DNA test. I also found a number of pictures sent by Primavera during the time that our child was there. (And he was very, very well cared for.)

So, while the definitive DNA test may never take place, there is photographic evidence that might help resolve the question, and possibly help lift the cloud of suspicion over Susana.

Posted by: Sandra at October 16, 2009 12:36 PM

Well, Elizabeth S., good for you on how you choose to parent your child. I, for one, do not think sending my child back after being with us for 3 years is in his best interest.

And no, I don't "value" his birth parents to the extent that I don't know if the child was conceived to be sold (and there is a good chance that is the case) - so I'm not risking some advocacy group giving my child's birth mother some money to claim he was stolen by ever contacting her.

In a perfect world this would not be the case, and there would be tearful reunions and exchanges of letters like we had hoped for, or see on t.v.. But after the hell of having a LIAR for an attorney and going through years of her manipulations, lies and worse, no, I wouldn't give that attorney a DAMN thing if I were those MO parents. She took enough from me already. I'm sure they feel the same way.

Posted by: APs not the bad guy at October 16, 2009 03:54 PM

Ditto to what Elizabeth S. said. Well put.

Posted by: GDSinPA at October 17, 2009 11:13 PM

Susana has already said (not sure if on this post or another) that they have compared the photos of the two girls and they are not the same (ie that the photo of Anyeli is not the same child as Karen Abigail). Maybe this is true and maybe the APs know this to be true. And maybe that is why they are not submitting their child for a DNA test. IMHO , they do owe their child, as Elizabeth S says. But, they do not owe us or any advocacy group anything. We are not the APs and they have said nothing. Maybe they have the facts that THEY see fit, for THEIR child /family and are not willing to drag themselves into the mess of publicity surrounding the case.

Posted by: sjbj at October 19, 2009 12:30 PM

Susanna has posted the dna results on her blog. There are pictures of Karen Abagail at Primavera and pictures of the child who was presented for the dna test.

Posted by: anon at October 19, 2009 06:29 PM

I have been following this particular adopcion case and to your comments. It is impossible to understand Susana's argument related to having two different girls because it is not true. In Guatemala adoptions were not being supervised and then it become a very good business for all these Orphanages owners. You can find attorneys, judges and many government employees being part of these cases because is the way that they work to pretend to have an adoption to be legal when they already know that is not and Susana knows better, of course she will never accepted because her name is implicated. One day the truth will come out and everybody will get surprised.

Posted by: lucia at October 27, 2009 12:21 PM
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